{"id":231,"date":"2010-01-04T18:24:00","date_gmt":"2010-01-05T02:24:00","guid":{"rendered":"\/blogengine\/blog3\/post\/Guitar-Rig-to-the-Rescue"},"modified":"2020-08-21T17:37:30","modified_gmt":"2020-08-22T01:37:30","slug":"guitar-rig-to-the-rescue","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prodigalsounds.com\/blog\/2010\/01\/04\/guitar-rig-to-the-rescue\/","title":{"rendered":"Guitar Rig to the Rescue"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I&#8217;ve spent about the last year re-working a track called &#8220;Listen&#8221; that I really and truly thought was finished and done with. It all started when two independent things happened: Firstly, I decided to purchase <a href=\"http:\/\/www.xlnaudio.com\/?page=products&amp;p_page=addictivedrums\">XLN&#8217;s Addictive Drums<\/a> software and improve the quality of my percussion tracks. This worked really well on my first experiment (a &#8220;new&#8221; track called &#8230; well that&#8217;s not important right now). As is the norm, before I finished the track to my satisfaction<br>, I got heartily sick of hearing it. This happens on every musical project, I should plan for it. The only solution is to take a break; and work on something different for a while, and then come back to it, aurally refreshed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;d been getting a good bass tone on the new track, but I needed some practice, so I&nbsp;decided to give my fingers a workout and attempt to play along to the bass line of Listen. Now, the bass in Listen was originally recorded with a <a href=\"http:\/\/prodigalsounds.com\/gear\/ChapmanStick.html\">Chapman Stick<\/a>, which requires quite different fingering, so this was not an insignificant challenge.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After about the second run-through, I was beginning to notice that it was sounding good. I mean, really good. It was kicking the track up a notch, to the point where I was considering that perhaps Listen actually should have the Bass on it instead of the Stick. Then I noticed some places where the drums were a little glitchy, could be tightened up a bit, given a more natural feel&#8230; and I could use XLN Addictive Drums on it, because after all, they sounded so much better than the sound module I used on Listen&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>6 months later, with completely new drums, new bass (including a new bass melody in one section), some alternate synths, and some additional vocals, I was guiltily pleased with the results. And then&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This one time, I was in the car, and I put in one of my CD&#8217;s and I heard the original mix, the one with the Stick, and I realized that it had something that the new version I&#8217;d been working on just wasn&#8217;t delivering. The new version was great, don&#8217;t misunderstand me, it was improved dramatically in many ways, but in the process something had been lost. Something I had to get back. What to do? It was apparent that &#8211; although the new bass line was great, and had triggered many other improvements &#8211; it really needed to be played on the Chapman Stick. Back to where the riff began, as it were.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Time to go back to the Stick, and practice. A lot. I gained fluidity and clarity but the tone wasn&#8217;t there. The Stick is a different instrument than a conventional bass guitar, even though they dominate the same frequency range (at least the way I use the Stick), and feeding it through the same signal chain that I used for a great bass sound didn&#8217;t work. I have no idea what I used for the original Stick recording (yes, I keep notes, but they are not exhaustive), and this time I was getting nothing but rubbish sounds via external hardware amp simulators (my two stand-bys are the <a href=\"http:\/\/line6.com\/products\/detail\/4\">Line6 POD 2.0<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.johnson-amp.com\/jstation.htm\">Johnson J-Station<\/a>), and getting really depressed about it, but in desperation I pulled out the Native Instruments Guitar Rig 3 LE plug-in that came bundled with SONAR 7.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It was the first time I used it. I&#8217;m not a fan of CPU-hungry virtual amp emulators and the associated latency. But in GR3le I started getting interesting results very quickly. Things were looking up. So much so, that I took advantage of a time-limited deal for SONAR users, and upgraded.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All of which is a preamble to what I actually wanted to talk about: Getting the bass tone for Listen using <a href=\"http:\/\/www.native-instruments.com\/#\/en\/products\/guitar\/guitar-rig-4-pro\/\">Native Instruments Guitar Rig 4<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Because GR4 is a resource-hungry beast,and the Listen project is already pushing the limits of my studio computer, I created a new project and loaded up three pre-rendered stereo tracks for the drums, synths, and guitars. Then a new track for the Stick recording:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010%2f1%2fTrack_001.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Here&#8217;s the sound with just the drums accompanying &#8211; it&#8217;s basically just the natural sound of the Stick through the <a href=\"\/colin\/posts\/2007\/09-03ReviewKKProSTDualCha.html\">K&amp;K pre-amp<\/a>&nbsp;along with a little compression from the FX bin:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/prodigalsounds.com\/mp3\/Listen\/GRStick\/naked_001.mp3\">Through the K&amp;K Pre-amp<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><audio controls=\"controls\"><source src=\"http:\/\/prodigalsounds.com\/mp3\/Listen\/GRStick\/naked_001.mp3\" type=\"audio\/mpeg\"><br>\nYour browser does not support the audio element.<\/audio><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then I added Guitar Rig to the FX bin:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010%2f1%2fTrack_002.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Guitar Rig is a lot of fun, because you can drag and drop icons around and construct a virtual equipment rack that represents how the audio signal will be processed. I created a rack with a tube compressor and phaser along with the typical bass amplifier and cabinet:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010%2f1%2fGuitarRig_001.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Here&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/prodigalsounds.com\/mp3\/Listen\/GRStick\/Phaser_Bass_002.mp3\">what it sounded like now<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><audio controls=\"controls\"><source src=\"http:\/\/prodigalsounds.com\/mp3\/Listen\/GRStick\/Phaser_Bass_002.mp3\" type=\"audio\/mpeg\"><br>\nYour browser does not support the audio element.<\/audio><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pretty good&#8230; but it is missing some nice, clear, top-end frequencies. With Guitar Rig, you can set up a split to process the signal via two independent processing paths, so I set up a second &#8220;jazz amp&#8221; with all the bass and mids rolled off to add some shimmer in:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010%2f1%2fGuitarRig_002.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Here&#8217;s what this <a href=\"http:\/\/prodigalsounds.com\/mp3\/Listen\/GRStick\/Jazz_Amp_003.mp3\">second signal path sounds like<\/a>, on its own:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><audio controls=\"controls\"><source src=\"http:\/\/prodigalsounds.com\/mp3\/Listen\/GRStick\/Jazz_Amp_003.mp3\" type=\"audio\/mpeg\"><br>\nYour browser does not support the audio element.<\/audio><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What I then used for the track was a 65\/35 mix of both:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010%2f1%2fGuitarRig_Final.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/prodigalsounds.com\/mp3\/Listen\/GRStick\/amp_mix_004.mp3\">The results<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><audio controls=\"controls\"><source src=\"http:\/\/prodigalsounds.com\/mp3\/Listen\/GRStick\/amp_mix_004.mp3\" type=\"audio\/mpeg\"><br>\nYour browser does not support the audio element.<\/audio><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I exported the resulting bass line out to a separate audio file and then <a href=\"http:\/\/prodigalsounds.com\/mp3\/Listen\/GRStick\/In_Context_005.mp3\">imported it into the original Listen<\/a> project in SONAR:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><audio controls=\"controls\"><source src=\"http:\/\/prodigalsounds.com\/mp3\/Listen\/GRStick\/In_Context_005.mp3\" type=\"audio\/mpeg\"><br>\nYour browser does not support the audio element.<\/audio><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yeah. I think that&#8217;s just about perfect.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve spent about the last year re-working a track called &#8220;Listen&#8221; that I really and truly thought was finished and done with. It all started when two independent things happened: Firstly, I decided to purchase XLN&#8217;s Addictive Drums software and improve the quality of my percussion tracks. 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